[Lofarpwg] LOFAR2.0 PSR/FRB/Fast Transients EoIs

[Possenti, Andrea]

hi Joris and Cees,

I really  do not disagree with any of you and I see good reasons for both
visions.
Science-wise I'm  more on Cees' (and my original) view (most science, with
some notable
exceptions, is overlapping among monitoring and long tracks on known
sources, although on different timescales),
while on the implementation plan, I'm much more inclined on Joris' view,
especially since
doing 1000 sources  with the monitoring will be  practically very  hard if
not impossible.

Maybe an intermediate option could be to ask for the Census-1000 pulsars as
a "piggy
back" program for the survey EoI, while keeping the description of the
related science
and motivations in the "monitoring" EoI.

Anyway, just a second order thing. What's important is to have that
implemented somewhere.

Andrea


Il giorno mer 10 nov 2021 alle ore 09:54 Joris Verbiest <
joris.verbiest at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hi Cees,
>
> Just to quickly point out that I don't think I agree.
>
> I do agree that scientifically there is a match with some of the science
> goals of the monitoring campaign and those of the long-track census; but at
> the same time a major goal of pulsar surveys is exactly charting the
> population of source out there -- meaning that there is an excellent
> scientific match there as well.
>
> Also, in terms of required observations, the survey and the long-track
> census are perfectly matched, whereas the difference with the monitoring
> campaign could not be larger.
>
> So I personally very much think the long-track census would be a logical
> part of the survey EoI -- but not of the monitoring EoI.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Joris
>
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 20:38, Cees Bassa <bassa at astron.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrea,
>>
>> On Mon, 2021-11-08 at 23:07 +0100, Possenti, Andrea wrote:
>> > I think that reading also the similar doc for the monitor EoI will be
>> > beneficial to answer your questions.
>> > At the moment, I'm just wondering if the 2nd sub-theme in the search
>> > EoI might not be more appropriate
>> > for the parallel monitor program. Of course one can sell that as a
>> > "search" for single pulses and other
>> > as yet unassessed phenomenologies, but at the very end the telescope
>> > will look at already known sources.
>>
>> Looking at the notes I took of both the searching and monitoring
>> discussions, the "1000 pulsar census with 8h per source" was mentioned
>> as part of the monitoring program. To me that seems the logical
>> location to add this; it is a bit different to the monitoring done for
>> timing, but it is a better match than searching.
>>
>> Regards,
>>    Cees
>>
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